Saturday, December 30, 2006

Bush's last triumph hails the end of his era

As Muslims all over the world made their way to Eid prayers celebrating the completion of the annual pilgrimage to Makkah, they heard on the news that the American president had chosen to use the most important day in the Muslim calendar in order to pretend that he had achieved anything of significance in Iraq. Now that Saddam is gone, Bush will be increasingly exposed as the fraud he is. Most people won't regret to see him go anymore than they regret the departure of the erstwhile US-sponsored Iraqi dictator.

The disrespect shown by the Neocon administration to the sanctity of the Islamic festival and the application of international law will come back to haunt them. In their blind arrogance and illusion of invincibility they thought Iraq was a cake-walk, but within precious little time they managed to alienate even those Iraqis who had initially welcomed the interference. Hiding behind a ambiguously worded UN security council resolution the usurpers of the White Hosue trampled on international law which prohibits an occupying force from changing the laws and constitution of a country under occupation and from installing their own government. They gave no quarter, and thus will be given no quarter when their time for reckoning will come.

Bush's haste in completing the execution - and he is responsible, for the Iraqi puppet government will do nothing without his approval - indicates that he fears his troops will not be able to stay much longer to finish the job they were sent to accomplish. Bush wanted to end the Iraq occupation on a triumphant note of having accomplished regime change. From here onwards it will be rapidly downhill, since all the US has managed to create is volatility and instability. And the US departure will not be dignified, nor will a temporary addition of troops generate sufficient control over the situation to pretend that all is well and sorted for the battered soldiers to come home. The surrender of Iraq and the splitting of the country into separate regions waiting to be absorbed by rivalling neighbouring countries, notably Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran, will harbour the beginning of the overstretched US military having to disengage and withdraw behind their own borders. Not long thereafter they will, in the paraphrased words of UK foreign secretary Margaret Becket, be held to account by an alliance of countries from Venezuela to China who might not have much more in common than their loathing for American hegemony.

Many countries have sat on the sidelines rather than opposed the United States territorial ambitions because, as a retired Russian general pointed out some time ago, it is much easier to let them bleed themselves to death than fight them openly. Likewise, whilst everybody knows that the dollar has lost its value for good and is going to enter freefall anytime soon, countries still holding dollar reserves want to dispose of them slowly and prevent a run that would hurt them equally. But whatever the detail of how these events will play out, the Iraq adventure into which America foolishly sleepwalked upon Israel's behest, will be the historical marker for the end of the American era in the world. The Zionist cabal, who know their time is up, might want to throw in a wild card with a "preemptive" nuclear strike on Iran, but even this will not change the trend in the long term.

In his hurry to execute Saddam Hussein George Bush has played his final trump card. Now the game is up.

45 Comments:

At 30 December 2006 at 14:29, Blogger Matthew said...

First of all, the Iraqis tried Sadaam. They convicted Sadaam...and they chose the date and time for which Sadaam would be executed. So you can blame your fellow Muslims for that. The Americans taught the Iraqis how a bonafide judicial system was to work. The Iraqis carried out the entire trial. Anything that says otherwise, is hearsay and rumor. Afterall, you're the one that relies on facts..right? Seems like there is always some religious spectacle to get in the way of justice. When exactly is the right time?

 
At 30 December 2006 at 16:10, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ever faithful SS trooper Matthew pops up once again. 'The Americans taught the Iraqis how a bonafide judicial system was to work.' And the Iraqi's repaid you by killing 108 of your country men just in this month alone (see http://icasualties.org/oif/). I have it bookmared as my home page, always nice to wake up and see how many of your fellow marines have been butchered by the very people that you claim to have 'liberated'

Another fact: http://www.flickr.com/photos/92303336@N00/338329397/in/photostream/

 
At 30 December 2006 at 16:20, Blogger Matthew said...

Anonymous, you've stepped right into the trap. Why is it exactly you stay pasted to the casualties web page...are you glad to see Americans dying? And believe me, the insurgency is not who we are there to liberate. It is those who feel avenged by Sadaam's execution. There is 20% of the Iraqi population who was "maybe" a Sadaam supporter. The rest were happy to see it happen. You see, that's the difference in you and I. We are willing to sacrifice our lives to attempt to make things better for people who were brutally dictated. You sit behind your computer and watch the casualty count...and complain!!! Have you ever lived under the conditions the Iraqi people lived for almost 30 years? Have you ever lived under Sharia Law? Probably not....maybe I'm wrong. Be glad you have the opportunity to sit there and blog...and complain. Meanwhile, some of us are willing to die to give others that freedom. We don't always do it the right way...I will admit that. But we are trying nonetheless. Hope you have a happy day of casualty watching and complaining. Later.

 
At 30 December 2006 at 18:22, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Matthew,

The casualty watching site contradicts every claim that you or your leaders make about liberating foreigners. Were the germans still killing americans 3 years after the liberation of berlin? How many insurgents will you need to kill before the insurgency is quelled? 1 million, 2 million. A recent poll by the Iraq Centre for Research and Strategic Studies showed that 90% of Iraqis feel the situation in the country was better before it was occupied. Oh let me guess, these 90% are the ungrateful insurgents.

 
At 30 December 2006 at 18:51, Blogger Showkat said...

Saddam Hussein Hanged
http://www.7cgen.com/index.php?act=post&do=new_post&f=6

As the ummah woke up for Eid
And the hajjis were on Mount mina
Beginning of a wonderful day
Lots to look forward to
They chose this day
To slay
Saddam Hussein

Once he could do no wrong
The man portrayed as strong
Not in the deen
But in carrying out orders for the west

When he fought Iran
To slow the Islamic revolution
The west armed him to the teeth
Chemical weapons, planes and all the tools of death
Millions of Muslims died
Nothing was achieved

Except two Muslim countries weakened

When he gassed his own people
The west looked the other way
And made more deals
To sell weapons for Muslims destruction
While the ummah continued to pray
For a saviour

First Gulf war
Invasion of Kuwait
Formerly part of Iraq
Before the division by the colonialists
Gave them an excuse to occupy Muslim land
And secure the oil supplies and strategic locations
Also sell out of date weapons to Arab leaders

Saddam’s forces routed
But Saddam strengthened
Internal opposition destroyed
Shias, Kurds and Islamists
All put to the sword
More weapons sold
To the butcher of Baghdad
Praised highly
Given everything except a medal of honour
For loyalty and sincerity to the western interests

Enter the year 2000
And opposition to Bathist rule growing
Tide in the Middle East is turning
Islamists on the march everywhere
Need for change
Caliphate is the alternative

America and the west scared
Worst nightmare
Muslim rulers no longer trusted
Need for new plan
Occupation
Based on lies about weapons of mass destruction

Democratisation
Rule of the people
Slogan after slogan
Not working
The mother of all battles has begun
American dead daily
Wounded uncounted
25 000 plus and rising

Saddam blamed
Accused of leading insurgency
Hunt is on
Finally captured
Paraded, humiliated
So much for human rights and dignity

Put on trial
What a show!
What a farce!
Judge is a Kurd
Axe to grind
But never mind

Guilty verdict passed
Appeal lost
Nowhere to turn
Except Allah
Saddam praying
Quoting the Quran and Sunnah


Day of execution set
Clashes with Eid
But so what
Kill him before he spills the beans
Names, dates and meetings
With US and British representatives

Dead man can tell no tales
Lesson for all Muslim traitors
They use u and discard u
Even on Eid

Author: Showkotali@hotmail.com

 
At 31 December 2006 at 00:20, Blogger Matthew said...

Anonymous, that's my point exactly...it's the select few, that are ruining it for everyone else. Do you honestly think that the majority of Iraqi's would prefer the insurgents be in control than the democratically elected officials? I understand your point...that the Iraqis want us out of there. However, the insurgents have brought that upon their own people. They hide behind them, using them as leverage. I can guarantee that the people of Iraq would rather have a democratically elected government than live under a brutal dictatorship, which is exactly what living under Sharia Law would be.

 
At 31 December 2006 at 01:57, Anonymous Londoner said...

MATHEW, AKA MARINE BOY

What planet are you on boy? Can't belive you come up with such shite. You say Iraqis tried and convicted Sadam. Iraqis control nothing, they are just a face for the slimy yanks to hide behind. After all they even changed the judge three times to ensure they get the desired result.
Dumbass Bush "leader of the free world" said on the day of Sadams capture that Sadam will hang but he was advised to make it so via the courts regardless of how mickey mouse the process is.

Marine boys arrogance is clear when he says Americans taught the Iraqis how a bonified judicial system was to work.

Matthew's only intention is to wind us up with his codswhollop. What say we all ignore him and deprive him of attention he so enjoys???

 
At 31 December 2006 at 02:08, Blogger Matthew said...

Stay classy Londoner!!

 
At 31 December 2006 at 12:02, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just stumbled upon this site Thought I'd throw in my ten cents worth.
America and predominately Great Britain have engaged themselves in an illegal shameful old fashioned invasion of a country regardless of how it is dressed up.
On endless occasions the United States has imposed puppet leaders in many countries all over the world without much opposition from any quarter.
The very man they installed has just been shamefully removed under the worlds gaze.
At the time a military man was the order of the day as a war between the 4th and 5th largest oil producing countries was what was required.
The United States train of thought being "oil is too important to be left to the Arabs"
Unbelievably the world has sat back through all of this and watched and let them impose their agenda regardless of human life whether it be Iraqi or American soldier for that matter.
All this in the name of Democracy?
Its always in the name of Democracy. This from a country that had to steal an election to get a prize fool into power.
I find it totally unbelievable that a complete idiotic half-wit can be elected into power. Maybe that is a reflection on the nation itself that a complete fool can be given the reigns. For me personally it shows that even the 'agenda' needs a fall guy and who better than a redneck fool to take the rap. Being as stupid as he is the actions can easily be attributed to himself. The total folly of an invasion.
I'm ashamed of myself for voting in Tony Blair. What kind of intelligent man would consider backing a fool this far? Are we in the UK that toothless?
There is so much to say but so little time at the moment. The real issues not been touched upon.
Regardless of what I write here this series of disgusting disregard for human life will continue no matter who the protagonists and antagonists are or which way they are dressed up.
Democracy is dying if not dead already. There isn't a country unaffected.

For everyone.........opinions are like arseholes everybody has one

 
At 31 December 2006 at 13:16, Blogger Mustaqim said...

As the details of the execution are emerging, we now know that the executioners were supporters of the radical Shia cleric Moqtada al-Sadr and were shouting slogans in support of this man who is considered one of the main leaders of the insurgency by president Bush. This effectively means that the execution described by Bush as a "milestone" was carried out by henchmen belonging to the insurgency. How bizarre! Can you still defend your government's actions, Matthew?

 
At 31 December 2006 at 14:12, Anonymous Londoner said...

Classy Matthew

Nothing classy about supporting a pillaging, murderous Yankie forign policy or making daft statements as you continue to do. I note, even you can't comment on any of the points I or the others raise.
Oh well said anon. I would just like to add to your comment re Tony Blair. I shall never forget the time when Isreal was busy destroying Lebnon, Most Countries called for a cease fire and our man Tony comes out with "It is too early for a ceasfire" Why is he never picked up on that?

If Saddam Hanged for ordering his people to their deaths then what is so different from Bush and Blair who order people to their deaths everyday in a murderous ilegal invasion?

EID MUBARAK to all...

 
At 31 December 2006 at 16:21, Blogger Matthew said...

Mustaqim, you should know...as you appear to be an educated man, that this is exactly how the insurgency works...no on knows who is who. Considering the government is ran by the majority Shia, and Muqtada has a large portion accounted for in that government, don't you think it's possible for his gurus to slip through, knowing this day was going to come? Come on now, use those marbles of yours.

Anonymous, I think it's quite disturbing that the rest of the world sits by and allows a man like Sadaam to butcher his own people, and have control over that much oil...considering Sadaam was the ONLY person profiting from that oil. If you'll do your research, you'll now see that the profits from their oil are going to the rebuilding of Iraq, not to build Sadaams gold palaces. I'm sick of everyone continuing to use the "oil" argument to fuel their hatred. It isn't valid on any level whatsoever.

Londoner, stay classy...you're not even worth my time.

 
At 31 December 2006 at 16:45, Anonymous Londoner said...

Dear Mr Mustaqim Sir

I get the impression that your dumbass yanky buddy thinks this is his blog. Is there anyway you can get the democratic autonomous govt of Iraq to hang him too and stop him from invading this site?

Have you seen the jonhs.net ? It has some very interesting footage ie Iraq for Sale and others.

 
At 31 December 2006 at 17:10, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Matthew,

If you watch the video you will see that the chants praising 'moqtada' are coming from the guy to the right of Saddam, the one in the balaclava who is about to hang him not some hoodlum in the crowd who had the opportunity to 'slip through'. BTW does anyone on this blog know how one would 'slip through' one of the most heavily fortified pieces of real estate in the world. That's just the kind of thing one does isn't it Matthew, 'slip through' to see someone getting hanged.

As for Iraqi petrodollar going towards rebuilding Iraq that is complete hokum. Construction has almost come to a standstill in Iraq. Bechtel has left Iraq after losing 52 workers in 3 years and Halliburton's operations are at a standstill after they were caught over-billing to the tune of several million.

Anyway, I'm off, speak later, time to 'slip through' some security barriers and see what I can find to entertain myself.

 
At 31 December 2006 at 17:17, Blogger Mustaqim said...

Not at all, Londoner! I quite enjoy self-declared American patriots like Matthew him showing themselves up and inviting ridicule for the increasingly untenable contention that the American soldiers are in Iraq in order to protect the Iraqi government they undemocratically catapulted into power from the insurgents which have infiltrated that government and thus benefit from that protection. US marines fighting the insurgency in order to protect the insurgents in government. It makes for good comedy ala Dad's Army (which our Yankee won't be familiar with, of course). Maybe in a future episode one of these black-hooded figures will slip through to the White House and provide new entertainment.

 
At 31 December 2006 at 17:26, Blogger Matthew said...

Actually Mustaqim, while we're on the subject, you have still managed to avoid all of my preceding comments on other blogs about your own religion's part in this thing. Still diverting huh. I guess that is common for you, you know, the word "abrogation"? Anyway, back to your last comment, if we have a puppet government, which we have supposedly elected, not elected by the Iraqi people, then do you honestly think we would put Muqtada and his thugs in any sort of political positions? We can only set up a democracy...it's up to the Iraqi people to decide who runs it. I guess they're our puppets huh. You've done a fantastic job of showing yourself up on your own blog. Why don't you answer my questions about your own religion's part in this, and their true intentions of world domination..and their parts in the Armenian and Hindu Holocausts? Or you can just continue to avoid those issues by diverting everyone to "America's to blame for Islam being stupid"!!

 
At 31 December 2006 at 17:55, Blogger Mustaqim said...

Stop diverting attention from the fallacy of your arguments: If you do not support the government the Iraqis have "deomocratically" elected after you taught them democracy and due process, why don't you get the hell out of there? Alternatively, if you are there to fight insurgents, why are supporters of these insurgents occupying government positions and carrying out Bush's milestone execution? Your argument is now in a circular loop ad infinitum. Just admit with some grace that you lost both the argument and the war.

 
At 31 December 2006 at 18:14, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a diversion indeed. We went from 'Iraqi sovereignty' and 'rebuilding of Iraq' to the Hindu/Armenian holocaust.

Interesting quote from the Israeli press:

'Say what they like about him, he met his death with dignity, with an erect head, without asking for mercy. His hanging, in its timing, was above all a political act: a government that does not control its land wanted to demonstrate determination and prove to its sect, the Shia community, that despite the heavy price that terror exacts every day, you get value for the TV licence.' NAHUM BARNEA IN ISRAEL'S TOP CIRCULATION YEDIOT AHARONOT

Pretty dire isn't it Matthew when even the Israelis start to realise what an incompetent fighting 'force' you are.

 
At 31 December 2006 at 18:52, Anonymous Londoner said...

Class act Marine boy

Having carpet bombed nations into democracy and civilisation can you and your buddies now teach us and the rest of the world how to use knives and forks aswell?
Sadam may have been barbaric but his hangers exceed him.

 
At 31 December 2006 at 20:59, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Matthew
America is the original gas guzzling greedy nation that cares only for one thing regardless of the cost...its ability to continue its outragous lifestyle and consumption at all costs.
The biggest disease mankind has witnessed.
A country a few hundred years old built on slavery and murder a stolen country.
You had people there still fighting for rights in the 60's
Its still apparent that not everyone is equal there.
I could go into to detail but I think you'll get the message.

 
At 31 December 2006 at 21:12, Blogger Matthew said...

Would you prefer we leave so the Shia can massacre the Sunni? You still haven't answered my questions!! WOW....if that's not a disturbing scenario!! You expect me to answer your questions about the war. Yet, all you do is write about how evil the governments of the west are. So I come to defend them, while you continue to bash. I answer your questions. Yet, you answer none of mine. NONE!!! Indonesia, Thailand, Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, Spain, America, England...and who knows where else...Islamists blow innocent people up, all in the name of their religion. They blow each other up in Iraq....and we're to blame for it all. And you won't answer any of my questions about your religion's part in it. The only reason your blogs get any hits is because you have a group...apparently the same group of followers, who believe the same horse pucky you believe. They have fallen for the same fallacies as you...."that the reason the Islamists are blowing people up, including themselves, is because of the west." Why would anyone believe in a religion that teaches that that will bring you eternal rewards. You see, I know that Christians have done terrible things..and still do. I'm willing to admit that. We have nuts in the states who picket the funerals of American troops who have died in the war. They consider themselves Baptists....but they're not blowing people up. I think they belong in a mental asylum. But they're not blowing people up in the name of God. But you still won't answer my questions. STILL!!! I guess you're hoping I'll just go away. Oh well. I guess you could say I'm like a bad penny...I always turn up!!!

 
At 31 December 2006 at 21:28, Anonymous Anonymous said...

'As the grandson of a Nazi-sympathizer, and the son of a war-criminal, what could we have really expected? As the son of a mother who lifted her leg and pissed on the victims of Katrina; and the brother of someone whose baby-sitter somehow killed herself by running herself over with her own car; and another brother who has lived a, lets say, dubious life, what could we have really expected? After failing at every single venture he had ever attempted; after executing more people in the State of Texas than any other Governor to ever serve in the United States; after stealing the election in 2000; lying America into war; stealing the election in 2004; and lying about the Democrats in 2006, what could we have really expected?

The short answer is: Nothing good.

The longer answer is still being written in front of our eyes. Soon the 3000th body will drop dead to the ground in Iraq; the 30,000th will become wounded, and possibly disfigured physically, if not mentally, forever. Soon the next uncounted innocent Iraqi will die. The damage to the unborn is yet to come, but can be expected.

Soon, Saddam Hussein will be dead. After receiving decades of support from successive Administations; after receiving Weapons of Mass Destruction from the American government; after being given the green-light to reclaim what Iraq still considered its Nineteenth Province in 1991; after over a million of his citizens were killed thanks to sanctions created, for all practical purposes, by the United States; after not receiving a fair trial; Saddam will hang.


But we have bigger problems that hanging a thousand Saddam's would not cure. It is our President, not their President, who used chemical weapons in Fallujah. It was our President, not their President, who tortured hundreds in the pursuit of his extreme ideology. It was, our President, not theirs, that used the CIA torture flights in violation of International Law. It is our President, and not theirs, who has created 1.5 million Iraqi refugees as a result of his illegal war. It is our President, and not theirs, who took away our civil rights; who tapped our calls; who terrorized us with the threats of impending attacks that were never real; who can make any one of us an 'enemy combatant' and lock us away in a legal black-hole for the rest of our lives. That was not Saddam Hussein, that is George Bush.

And it is not over: Will our President, this delusional, dim-witted, idiot listen to the voices in his head and decide to invade Syria, Iran, or North Korea? Will felons and re-tread war-criminals continue to befoul the White House? Will the media continue to lie for this man? Will the right-wing propagandists continue to blame American citizens who do not have what it takes to 'win in Iraq'?

Will the Opposition Party grow a stronger spine in time to defend our Constitution, and toss this murderer to the curb? Or, will they simply write letters that never get answered, and tell us why impeachment just isn't the right thing to do? Will the leader in the Senate wake from his perpetual state of slumber and actually fight?

The other President is being hanged; but, after all this, one must wonder whether the rope could possibly hold two. There has never been a more disgusting, murdering, lying, repulsive, animal to suck air into its lungs in the past sixty-one years. And, he is the President of the United States--for another 752 days...'

From http://rissercouk.blogspot.com/

 
At 31 December 2006 at 21:51, Blogger Matthew said...

Anonymous, I feel really sorry for you. You obviously see bad in everything. If you are comparing our President to Sadaam Hussein, on "evidence" you have obviously pulled from the rabbit in your hat, no one will give you what you are looking for, which is perfection. So how did you feel about Clinton..Bush Sr..Reagan..Carter..etc? I definitely feel that Bush made a huge mistake with Katrina...everyone knows that, including him. I think that's one of the, if not the biggest tragedy America has seen on our soil in 140 years...to include 911. I'm not going to argue with you there. However, he wasn't the only one who messed that one up...and you know it. But your obvious anger at America has left you dillusional also. What is your suggestion to help fix the U.S? I say there is nothing that can fix it for you...you only see red. Just a thought.

 
At 31 December 2006 at 22:38, Anonymous Londoner said...

Wow Anon

I take my hat off to you for such a suberb, detailed and well articulated comment.
I can't understand how anyone with a shred of intelligence would dare disagree with anything you wrote. HAHA oh look here is Mathew with more confused garbage. Its like banging your head against a brick wall. Some people are determined to live in ignorance. He probably just skims other peoples comments whilst concentrating only on his own.

 
At 31 December 2006 at 23:20, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Matthew,

>>Katrina...everyone knows that, including him. I think that's one of the, if not the biggest tragedy America has seen on our soil in 140 years

Amazing how he correctly lists Katrina as one of the biggest mistakes in US history but makes no mention of the 650'000 dead Iraqi's. Oh but wait a minute, they just all happened to collectively commit suicide, no blame on the US there. Matthew - you keep firing off these diversions such as the armenian/hindu holocaust, two communities which you probably know nothing about but are using to deflect your own crimes! what have you got to hide? Why are Iraqi's still resisting after 3 years? What's happened to the billions of dollars embezzled from the Iraqi defence fund? Why were leading US companies like halliburton caught fraudulently inflating charges? The spotlight is on your current crimes, not crimes 600 years ago.

 
At 1 January 2007 at 10:13, Blogger Mustaqim said...

Matthew, you only keep turning up because I let you show the world how much ignorance there is in the American hinterland, like Greenville, South Carolina. I could block you or delete your entries, but people in Europe often think that the American government has been hijacked by idiots with money. without your valuable contributions they wouldn't realise that Bush & Co. are actually representative of large sections of this continent with a big appetite but a very shallow insular mindset. Notably, in more enlightened urban locations, like New York, they can't stand Bush and his policies and have by now figured out that he sacrificed them on 9/11.
Oh, and before you retort again by saying that I don't answer your questions: If you want to know about the Armenian genocide, read my entry on this blog of a couple of months ago here: http://flyingimam.blogspot.com/2006/10/france-armenia-and-jewish-perpetrated.html
Troubles is, you don't read, you're so full with your own rage and anger at not being allowed to play the hero, and like the rest of the losers in your country you need someone to blame it on. But scapegoating is an illusion. If all the Muslims quietly slipped away tomorrow that would remove the whipping boy but wouldn't solve any of your home-grown problems. America would still be in deep shit.

 
At 1 January 2007 at 15:52, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it unfair to blame the US and people like Mathew for the crimes of Bush and Blair et al and their being led into a war by Israel and the Zionist Neo-Cons. It is they who are the criminals, with Bush and Blair playing the part of useful puppets (and criminals), like Sadam was to the West as one time.

The US is a society which is totally shaped and controlled by the Zionist media and lobbies, people like Mathew cannot see that they have been lied to and indoctrinated to see the world in such a delusional way.

 
At 1 January 2007 at 15:57, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=118396

 
At 3 January 2007 at 16:49, Anonymous Londoner said...

Anon

I agree with most of what you say but no it is NOT unfair to blame people like Mathew or anyone who tries so hard to justify and legitamise a murderous, thieving american/British foregin policiy.

 
At 4 January 2007 at 17:09, Blogger LSU said...

doctor I find it very disturbing that you have the same gripes about the west as the Islamofascists do. 1.) Everything the West does is drawn out to be a shot at Islam and 2.) revenge and I quote "Hiding behind a ambiguously worded UN security council resolution the usurpers of the White Hosue trampled on international law which prohibits an occupying force from changing the laws and constitution of a country under occupation and from installing their own government. They gave no quarter, and thus will be given no quarter when their time for reckoning will come."

So tell me where do you get this craziness from? Were you taught this growing up in religious schools? al-Sadr will soon be dead. Teh insurgents mind you are coming from Iran and Syria. Sure some are Iraqis loyal to the Baathist party, which runs Syria by the way. The IEDs come from Iran, so are we suppose to just leave and let Iran run the show? How come Muslim rulers can kill on Muslim holy days but not anyone else? You guys are so entertwined with your religion that you can't see anyone elses plight. it is scary. The US does not kill on a certain day to incite Muslim outrage. That is stupid. I didnot see any Americans during that execution did you?

Glad to see you quoting Soviet Communist Generals by the way. Fits right in to the condoning of slaughtering Jews category.

Yep the dollar has lost so much that people are still willing to risk life and limb to come here. There is that word Zionist again.

So doctor and all others here a simple question: Do you support any government that is not Islamic in nature? or a government that is built upon a free and open society?

 
At 4 January 2007 at 17:32, Blogger Mustaqim said...

Maybe folks from Louisiana have even less capacity to understand logic than those from South Carolina. Yes, please just get out and let those crazy Muslims get on with it. What's the point defending a government whose agents (the execution was not held in a public place for everybody to get in) are in support of the insurgence as is evident from their support cries for al-Sadr? But instead the US is sending naval ships to Somalia to meddle in a conflict which years back gave nothing back to the US tax payer than maybe the entertainment of the film "Black Hawk down". You just don't learn, do you?
Now explain the new term Islamofascist to me. Fascism is defined as a system where political, military and economic (commercial and industrial) power are concentrated in a few hands. Whilst this most definitely is the case in the US, it does not apply to any of the puppet regimes established in Muslim countries, however totalitarian they may be. They do not control their own resources and are militarily heavily dependent on outside suppliers. They are not capable of posing a threat to their region and even less the wider world.
Why am I so much against the American foreign policy (not against the American people, except that many of them have been brainwashed on a diet of NBC or CNN, and that's not just me saying it, listen to the patriotic song writer Carl Klang, for example)? Because American foreign policy is wreaking havoc in the world and is bringing us to the brink of destruction. How many countries has Iran invaded in its long, long history? None. How many countries has the US invaded in a much shorter history? Endless. And even your own politicians and generals have by now admitted that their interference in Iraq has made that place more unstable rather than more secure.

 
At 4 January 2007 at 19:00, Blogger LSU said...

Right doctor we are fascist over here...lol. Here we have more freedom to do as we please then any country in the history of the world. Who is it that runs Iran again? A very select few religious Ayotallahs?

Iran has not invaded anybody? Hmm, lets see wasnot IRG troops killed in Lebanon during the last Isreali/Hezballoh fight? What were they there for? Explain that one? Is not IRG troops inside Iraq right now? Is not the IEDs in Iraq coming from Iran? Terrorist Surogates anyone?

I don't watch CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, or MSNBC. They just give the socialist, anti-American party line.

Its funny you mention Somalia here. So b/c the US taxpayer gets nothing in return we should not go and help out? Yet I thought we had a US taxpayer reason to go to Iraq for oil? So which one is it doctor? I am confused?

Iraq is unstable b/c unlike past downfalls of government things move faster nowadays. It took us almost 100 years to have our Civil War to straighten things out. Iraq is taking far less. Was there bloodshed after WWII in Germany and Japan?

Again America is to blame for everything. We give our own blood to save people in Somalia b/c the flippin U.N. is ineffective in its main goals. That is a heroic thing to do, give ones life simply so that others may live in better circumstances. You talk of US Imperialism yet out of all the countries we invade, we always pull out and allow them to flourish on their own freedoms. Imperialism doctor, is when you invade and never leave again. We will be leaving Iraq soon b/c we do not have Imperialistic goals. Since when was freedom a bad thing? I guess when you have Fascist states and leaders like Iran, China, North Korea, etc losing your mind control and power of the people you have kept stupid and ignorant freedom is a threat. You say we have invaded countless countries in our short existance, yet you fail to see how many people we have liberated from tyranny inside of those very same countries.

Where is your disdain for Iran and not letting people practice Christianity there? Why do you not condemn Hamas, Al-Queda, Islamic Jihad, & Hezballoh for their terrorist actions around the world? No doctor, you wish not to see the things that really are sick and twisted. Instead Muslims are taught in Iran to hate Jews and the West, or the Zionists, which is the exact word you use here on this blog.

What is wrong with freedom? People want it. Yet the dictators won't give it to them b/c they will loss power. Has not the lust for Power been the downfall of mankind? Has not God struck down those men for such things? If teh US wanted to take over the world, why would we start in Iraq? Especially knowing the historical conflict there? If we wanted teh world under US law we would hit China first. Then Russia. Iraq would be irrelevant sir. We would also be drilling off our own shores to supply and depot enough oil to do the job. Which we are not doing. So stop with all the anti-US, Imperialistic nonsense and see the root cause here: Terrorism. Free people donot want to live in fear of people who blow up innocent woman and kids for no other reason except ALLAH! How sick is that? We have dictators who are trying to get nuclear weapons, who would no less like to keep their own power and destroy the only sources of fighting against them. By handing off nukes to terrorist groups these nations could use them as a surrogate to detonate one of their own devices. Unfortunately Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea, etc are linked to terrorism. Especially Iran and Syria b/c they fund it! Who else will stop such evil intentions? The U.N.? Russia? Africa? France? I bet we invaded France too for Imperialistc purposes right? Is that one of your "US invasions"?

 
At 4 January 2007 at 19:35, Blogger Mustaqim said...

Iranian Jews don't want to emigrate to Israel because they feel a lot more free and safe in Iran. But Israel wants the US to attack Iran, because "an American strike in Iran is essential for our (i.e.Israel's) existence" according to Israeli Brigadier General Oded Tira. And both the Republicans and Democrats are corrupt enough to send "their" boys into certain annihilation because they have been bought. LSU, you are no patriot, happy to waste American lives for the Israeli ambition of regional supremacy. As for Somalia, it wasn't the US soldiers nor the artificially created exile government who brought stability to that war-torn country, it was the "Islamists", and now the US is trying once more to get rid of them. You mention Hamas, they were elected by the people. You talk about freedom - most people under American rule want freedom from occupation. And for the last many years every opinion poll in Europe, not somewhere in the third world, found that its citizens consider Bush and his administration the greatest threat to world peace. But, of course, they must all be wrong, because anybody who disagrees with American policy is by definition wrong in your book. Troubles is, the world is bigger than your shores and you live in cloud cuckoo land. The US military is getting tired and worn and the dollar is no longer buying much, its circulation figures already having been rivalled by the Euro and the US trade deficit widening whilst US industries are up against the wall and being sacrificed. America is already an ex-superpower and China is the rising star. Carry on on your fast ride to national suicide and you will soon be the pity of the world, not only during emergencies like Katrina. Why don't you show as much enthusiasm in pulling your country up by the shoestrings and eradicating its appalling poverty inside your borders as you do championing the alleged freedoms of people about whom you know nothing and who don't want your help?

 
At 4 January 2007 at 20:15, Blogger LSU said...

And why does Isreal want to atack Iran first? Is it b/c they are talking about wiping Isreal off the face of the map? Or b/c they are trying to get nukes? Or perhaps both? I don't fight for Isreal doctor. But I bet you think Hamas & Hezballoh are patriots don't you? Again everything goes back to Jews with you. Maybe if Hamas, Hezballoh, & Iran would just leave Isreal alone we could have peace in our day. But since Islamic terrorists want world domination we will not get it until they are gone.

What is stability doctor? Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, North Korea are stable governments were they and are they not? Stability is not an end to itself.

Yes and how have Islamists brought stability to Somalia doctor? Through war? This is where you pull your foot out of your mouth. So it is ok for Islamists to fight a war in Somalia? Do they want you there? Or what about the Sudan doctor? A little Ethnic cleansing by Muslims ok there too?

Now we are citing polls? Did it occur to you that the socialist, peacenick leftists control Europe doctor? Of course they look at Bush and see an enemy to everything they stand for: socialism, and passiveness. The world wide left is a peace movement bent on US destruction. Bush stands up to the terrible dictators and evil people who would do harm to innocent people. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the European economies are in an upswing? You do realize free markets have ups and downs don't you?

Appalling poverty? Here in the US?..lmao. The people on welfare here have houses, cars, TVs, cell phones, etc. Is that poverty? You ever been to Haiti doctor or to any real poor country? That is real poverty doctor. Nobody in the US is in poverty unless they choose to be there. You just showed how little you really know about the USA. Perhaps you should watch CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, or FOX for a little education on life in America. The worst day in America would be better then the greatest day in Haiti.

 
At 4 January 2007 at 20:32, Blogger Mustaqim said...

Here's a snapshot of your happy nation: http://www.zmag.org/snapusa.htm
There's none as blind as he who won't see!

 
At 4 January 2007 at 21:09, Blogger LSU said...

Thanks mustaqim. What was the point of this again? I will say it again. The poorest in the US are still leaps and bounds above those same "poor" people from any other nation.

DO you know the reasons behind some of these medical problems?

What is the cure? Do you know how much money we spend on the poor in this nation? Medical research? Tell me "doctor" how are things looking in Iran & Syria these days? I am sure you have websites for them too right?

So who is Michael Parenti? Should I mention he is a leftist? A Chinese Communist sympathizer? A Milosevic sympathizer? Lets see here, he wrote a book called "The Anti-Communist Impulse". Interesting title. Oh yeah he also thinks, like you guys do, that the US is Imperialistic. Lets see what else here....ah he is disturbed by the "social injustices" of the West and third world countries. Yes there it is folks, another socialist viewpoint. If one person has it we should all have it.

So doctor, any other medical problems you want to throw out there...lol. Which one of those stats caught your eye doctor? How about that 12,000,000 unemployed? Out of 300,000,000 that is what 4%? Do you know what the poverty line in America is doctor?

lol..since when were homeless people forced to live on the streets? Who forced them to be on the street? Where is the stat that most homeless are addicted to some sort of drug? or are mentally unstable?

Doctor every counry has social, economic, and political problems. There is nothing on this site that the average American has not before. Most of this is medically related.

What if I told you I live below the poverty line here in the US? Would you still look at poverty the same way? I bet I would flip your brain upside down on the issue of poverty.

 
At 5 January 2007 at 09:42, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isu,

>>Doctor every country has social, economic, and political problems

Thankyou, thankyou. You seem to be learning. This is the crux of the matter. EVERY country has problems and in an ideal world they would be allowed to resolve those problems with/without outside help if/when required. Dropping half-a-miliion dollar bombs on villages doesn't constitute as help in most sane peoples minds.

Most people can do without this kind of 'help'
http://www.albasrah.net/images/war_crimes/index.htm

 
At 5 January 2007 at 11:27, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi,

I have been going through all the comments and couldnt help posting a remark to all: Dr. Sahib Mustaqim (respect you very much for your achievemnts), Anonymous, Matthew and LSU.

Some background: my Mom's side is mostly American including my maternal grandparents (they are all muslim citizens). I lived in the US for about five years but am not living there anymore as a preference.

I don't think its fair to place blame on the whole American population, as I was living there myself for a while and have family in Maryland, there are quite a number of good people there. That goes too for US Marines, as I had a really good friend from MSG Hanoi ( I lived in hanoi for about a year and spent some time with MSGs there. Matthew Hurrah. I think you will know what that means).

But here is my point. That being said, it does not mean that certain governmental officals in the US are not corrupt and power hungry.

Firstly, I completely agree with Dr. Mustaqim on the point he made on US media. sadly, they are very biased. For example, yesterday, there was an Israeli raid in Ramallah (i saw this raid live on Al jazeera because they had cameras there). They brutally came in armored vehicles to a vegetable market area, completely smahed property, killed 3 people and injured about 20 (a 2 hr incursion). They just called this a routine arrest and also arrested 4 people. CNN only mentioned an incursion and didnt even give it any air time. BBC covered it much better. Now, if this was some sort of incursion into Israel. well, CNN would have coverage all over the place, as we have seen in the past.

Secondly, its not only Europe where the people see the US government being wrong but majority of the Americans also. Here are some stats:

1) AP-AOL News Poll Reveals: America Perplexed by George W. Bush U.S. President Ranks as Top Villain and Top Hero of 2006
America in No Doubt of 2006’s Celebrity Role Models – Oprah Regaled as the Best; Britney Declared the Worst DULLES, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--A new poll from The Associated Press and AOL News has discovered that Americans are torn in terms of their perception of President George W. Bush and his performance in 2006. When asked to name the past year’s biggest villain, Bush was far and away the #1 choice, commanding 25% of the vote, distantly trailed by Osama Bin Laden (8%), Saddam Hussein (6%), President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran (5%), North Korean leader Kim Jong II (2%) and Donald Rumsfeld (2%). Satan only took in 1% of the vote, as did Hugo Chavez, Tom Cruise, Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and Rosie O’Donnell, among others. Link: http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jspndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20061228005253&newsLang=en

2)Down on the war
Poll: More troops unhappy with Bush’s course in Iraq

Published:
Dec. 29, 2006

By Robert Hodierne
Senior managing editor
The American military — once a staunch supporter of President Bush and the Iraq war — has grown in creasingly pessimistic about chances for victory.
For the first time, more troops disapprove of the president’s han dling of the war than approve of it. Barely one-third of service members approve of the way the president is handling the war, ac cording to the 2006 Military Times Poll.
When the military was feeling most optimistic about the war — in 2004 — 83 percent of poll re spondents thought success in Iraq was likely. This year, that number has shrunk to 50 percent.
Only 35 percent of the military members polled this year said they approve of the way President Bush is handling the war, while 42 percent said they disapproved. The president’s approval rating among the military is only slight ly higher than for the population as a whole. In 2004, when his popularity peaked, 63 percent of the military approved of Bush’s handling of the war. While ap proval of the president’s war lead ership has slumped, his overall approval remains high among the military.
Just as telling, in this year’s poll only 41 percent of the military said the U.S. should have gone to war in Iraq in the first place, down from 65 percent in 2003. That closely reflects the beliefs of the general population today — 45 percent agreed in a recent USA Today/Gallup poll. Link:http://www.militarycity.com/polls/2006_main.php

3)CNN Poll: Only 11% Back Call to Send More Troops to Iraq

By E&P Staff

Published: December 18, 2006 9:55 PM ET
NEW YORK President Bush, according to reports, is strongly considering sending a "surge" of troops to Iraq in the new year -- 20,000 or more. Sen. John McCain and Sen. Joe Lieberman have already backed such a plan. But a new poll for CNN released Monday found that this idea draws the support of only 11 percent of Americans.

Fewer than a third of Americans still support the war in Iraq, and more than half say they want U.S. troops out of the country within a year, according to the CNN poll. This 31 percent support marked a new low in the Opinion Research survey.

"Nearly three-quarters said Bush administration policy needs a complete overhaul or major changes. But only 11 percent of those polled backed calls to send more American troops to Iraq, as President Bush is said to be considering," CNN said. Link: http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jspvnu_content_id=1003523154

4)Americans Question Bush on 9/11 Intelligence
October 14, 2006

Polling Data
When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?
Oct06 May02
Telling the truth 16% 21%
Hiding something 53% 65%
Mostly lying 28% 8%Not sure 3% 6%
Source: The New York Times / CBS News
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 983 American adults, conducted from Oct. 5 to Oct. 8, 2006. Margin of error is 4 per cent
Link:http://www.angusreid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/13469

Additionally, Lt. Ehren Watada has become the first US serving soldier to refuse to deploy to Iraq on grounds of immorlity/illegality of the war. Link: http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/20070102/hz_specialfeatures_1/blogs19056

My point is, one poll can be wrong, but not four different ones all. Please, lets not fight each other like this and all agree as HUMANS!! That this leadership is wrong for the country and lets do something about it ( I have family in the US just like you guys). This leadership will stop at nothing and continue to pursue personal goals. For the sake of the future of our families, don't side with this leadership.

May Allah save humanity at these difficult times. Amin.

 
At 5 January 2007 at 15:15, Blogger LSU said...

hey doctor you were talking of Somalia earlier. al-Qaida's #2 guy al-Zawahri is calling for all Muslims to fight the crusaders army there now. DO you back al-Zawahri's call? You said Muslim forces had seized control of Somalia, yet it appears they have been pushed out of Mogadishu and into the Southern tip of Somalia. And once again we have Muslims laying claim to land in other countries, this time in Ethiopia. Does this madness never end? Pretty soon they will lay claim to land in North America I bet.

Anonymous #1,001, whoever you are, please pick a name so I know who to repsond to. Otherwise I will have 1,000 anonymous people echoing my name. The fact contries have their own problems is, I hoped, was an understood fact that needed not to be made. Still it does not mean anything in the bigger discussion. I simply stated it b/c the doctor seemd to think that Michael Parenti's website was some sort of new info out there for all to see, as if the US does not have problems at all. I simply stated that all countries have problems to make him understand that I know that b/c I don't think he knew I realized it.

 
At 6 January 2007 at 11:07, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isu/Matthew,

This is a good read. Take note of the "wheelbarrow" scenario.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/05/opinion/edzizek.php

 
At 8 January 2007 at 20:52, Blogger Matthew said...

Sorry guys...been away for a while. Anonymous, uhhhh, this guy is a "leftist and Marxist". Enough said. I'll get to the rest later.

 
At 8 January 2007 at 21:32, Blogger LSU said...

Hey what do you know? Here is a story about Somalia:

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16522369/

Somalia's President came back? He left b/c the fanatical Muslims were trying to take over. Now that they are almost defeated, along with al-Qaida, he can come back and re-establish normalcy perhaps. I am sure that all this is a Jew's fault somewhere right?

 
At 9 January 2007 at 08:08, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isu,

Yes, he's back. And the warlords are back to their old tricks:

'A 13-year-old boy was killed when government forces opened fire on demonstrators, his family told AFP news agency.

"Some government troops and Ethiopian forces opened fire to disperse the crowds and my son was hit by a bullet," Omar Halame Rage told AFP.'

You must feel real proud of yourself.

source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/6236495.stm

 
At 9 January 2007 at 08:46, Blogger MAHARAJADHIRAJ said...

My views on America after Saddam:
http://bodhishop.blogspot.com/2007/01/done-in-by-whore.html

 
At 9 January 2007 at 16:28, Blogger Matthew said...

Anonymous,
I'm sure they are just as proud as the Islamist regime who starved their people and slaughtered their own for the last 15 years. Talking about the pot calling the kettle black...!!! War's a bad thing you know...sometimes the innocent get caught up in the mix...if that's the most you have on this government...then I suggest you back over the past 15 years and see what you can dig up about the Islamist regime...and their atrocities against their own!!

 

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